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Flying History Through Safety

If history could fly for a small group of pilots based out of Farmingdale, Long Island's Republic Airport (FRG/KFRG), it definitely was set in stone on June 23rd, 2013 as the New York Flight Club with Chief Pilot / Award Winning Certified Flight Instructor (CFI) Robert Keleti of along with fellow NYFC pilot Natan Hoffmann took not only our team of pilots but those who were in attendance into the skies for the first official meeting of NYFC members.  What made this meeting special was that it was and is extended beyond pilots and the aviation community.  It's made for everyone to come and share their experiences in aviation. 

Not only everyone in attendance took to the skies but to the skies of safety and security as Keleti and Hoffmann  brought on board current EL AL 747 Captain Shemulik E.  Captain E. (we will keep his last name on a first letter basis) not only is currently a 747 Captain with EL AL, but was also was the Chief Pilot for the 757/67 fleet.  Before coming over to the 747 he also took an office job as the head of security operations for the airline.

So with this being said, a great way to launch a series of meetings that are due to occur once every month or so?  I'd say so.

As the relaxing atmosphere settled in with great Israeli music and videos showing various flights which were shot by Keleti  and Hoffmann themselves, safety and security were brought to the table, literally, as Captain E. introduced himself and the questions started to pour in.. literally.

So, what was mainly pressing on minds of both pilots and non-pilots this past Sunday?

  • Auto-Pilot (Exactly when is A/P engaged after take off?  Have pilots ever flown the NATS manually?  What do pilots do during auto-pilot time?)  
  • Automation and 
  • Fly-by-wire Technology (Why not side-stick controls in a 777 with fly-by-wire technology?  Differences between Boeing and Airbus?)
  • Training Procedures and their revisions as a result of aviation catastrophes.  Being pro-active versus re-active.
  • Internal Maintenance Load Factors - Who is responsible?  The Captain/Pilot In Command/The person responsible for all souls on board or MX (Maintenance?)
  • CRM (Crew Resource Management) 

And if you didn't think that EL AL flight 1862 and Air France 447 didn't appear on the table, less alone TWA 800, one would be sorely mistaken.  

After a brief discussion of the above, the slide shows and videos continued to pour the dark side of what can go wrong when you don't know what you are doing as a pilot.  Waiting for that "atomic bomb to go off" as our CFI Robert Keleti would say.

Don't know where you are going during low visibility?  Let's see what will happen when you don't follow what Providence ATC tells you.  (I was thinking JFK ATC's experience with Air China during this segment.) But then, what if they clear you for take off when there is another aircraft stuck on an adjacent taxiway?  Let's have a look at errors on both sides.  A recipe for Tenerife part II:

Orange traffic departs 05R and clips UA 1448 Ouch..

What would you do if ATC cleared you for take-off and you knew that there was an aircraft hanging out a midst the runway somewhere?

TK 1951
We also proceeded to relive the crash (nicknamed the "Poldercrash") of TC-JGE operating as Turkish Airlines flight 1951 which impacted short of Amsterdam-Schipol's (AMS/EHAM) 18R (Dutch nicknamed "Polderbaan") on February 25, 2009.  What went wrong, why, and how we can stop it from re-occurrence.

Intercepting The Localizer and Failure to Make the Runway

The importance of AIRSPEED and ALTITUDE

A/T goes to IDLE, too late to take action, aircraft goes into a stall and crashes break into three pieces, killing 9 passengers and crew including the three pilots, injuring many.

Watching the demise and learning very important lessons:  AIRSPEED, AIRSPEED, AND AIRSPEED

Dunkin Donuts compliments of
Even though we let the dark ugly side of flying out during our first gathering, we definitely ended the event on a positive note, noting the positive aspects to flight.  Mainly aerial photography.

For those who came, it was a pleasure to meet you all and once again to have the honor of being surrounded by an awesome group of skilled pilots.  Skilled in safety and security.

Mostly many thanks to our CFI, Robert Keleti, and Natan Hoffmann for arranging our guest speaker for this event so that he could show his expertise and to help encourage the ever continuing molding process for safe and secure pilots.  To be an ever safe and secure pilot nowadays is a true art form. 

If you are a pilot, learn how to be a safe and secure one.  If you are simply a frequent flyer and/or aviation enthusiast, or even yet afraid to fly and never took your foot onto an aircraft, learn how we make sure that you first will be your most memorable.  To join us for our next event August 4th, 2013 or to sign up for the New York Flight Club official e-mail listserv to be notified of future events and/or competitions, please e-mail  See you then!

Keep in mind, one doesn't need to be a pilot to attend these events..

EL AL Captain K-9 "Spunky"

Always spreading the passion
  & the message of safety,



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